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It seems like there would be wet, moldy carpet. I have fabricated wood flooring in there now. The application is fairly simple and easy for beginners too, making it a great option for With thinner vinyl flooring construction, adding a foam underlayment can effect the locking system strength. However, he now states that after trying different ways- the floor will be flat but not completely level. Did you have a heavy rain fall? I can easily push it down in the “smushy” spots w just my finger. This will cover slight unevenness and minor subfloor imperfections. Is not heated during the winter. are there noticable differences in sound and warmth between them? Which means it will likely happen again on the rest of the floor. Without a transition molding, exposed tile edges may serve as a tripping hazard and could chip from exposure. Underlayment can be a breeding ground for mold and mildew when left wet. Did you end up using the DMX and if you did, did you lay your vinyl planks on top of the DMX. Here is a link to our selection: https://www.bestlaminate.com/vinyl-plank-flooring/. Hi Danielle – I am sorry to hear that this is happening to your COREtec floor. Hi Mike, thanks for the question. My question is, is it possible since there was no self leveling agent poured, this is causing a bouncy feel and flexing on about 70- 80% of the floor. If you are installing any OSB, be sure to use luan on top of those. We will be removing all of it so that the floor will be even. Do I need underlayment? The concrete floor has lots of imperfections. I hope this answered your questions! The planks are now “cupping” with the center areas of a large number of the planks toward the ends having lifted off the floor. For the concrete slabs, usually Durock is used for tile installations and not vinyl. The original flooring in the basement is dirt, they build a plywood subfloor above it which is nicely framed. If the attached underlayment is scratched or appears to be dented, it is still okay to install as long as the underlayment covers the full surface of your flooring. So, I am considering Flooret, due to its size, as we have a HUGE greatroom/kitchen combo (36×32) and a 55’ hallway attached to that room…nearly 4,000 sq ft. of house. Hi – We’re having new flooring professionally installed in our kitchen. pulling apart both lengthwise and widthwise. Hope this helps! The course should look slightly thicker at the wider end of the room, but the cut edge of the boards should be sitting consistently 1/4 inch from the wall. Hello, we currently have peel and stick vinyl on the floor that we need to take up. I want to maximize sound dampening as it’s in a 2nd story of a townhome built in 1970. The subfloor is uneven so I intend to put down 1/4” Wonderboard first to try and smooth it out. If you want cushion and sound dampening, there are vinyl specific underlayments that are 1mm. We are building a berm home and I was wondering if I will need some sort of underlayment since the subfloor will be concrete? Have you seen this done before. At least 48 hours prior to installation, place the new vinyl plank flooring in the room for acclimation. The concrete floor is relatively new and completely smooth and flat and there is insulation in place between the ground and the concrete. I had the tile removed, and the floor guy patched some areas and smoothed it out. Second, it is way too thick to go under a vinyl flooring at 8mm. There are 4 bedrooms in which we want to install an LVP product. Be sure to follow our Glue-Down Vinyl Installation Guide for the best results. Hi Jeff! Thank you in advance…. The company that installed it said they would leave it alone and nothing will happen. Thank you! If it is simply that the temperature changed drastically, that could be the issue. Since the weight it distributed throughout the 4 legs, it will still be able to float normally. The room plays a big role in determining the correct flooring product. I was told that we do not need any type of sub-floor barrier and can lay directly onto the concrete. Back in early 2003 I installed my first ever Laminate Floor. The only time I have seen them break or chip is if a heavy or sharp object was dropped. Please give us a call if you have any further questions. Can you also recommend a thickness? If you’re using an underlayment, that should cover any of the minor imperfections from the residue. Hi Sarah, thanks for your question. At least 48 hours prior to installation, place the new vinyl plank flooring in the room for acclimation. This method raises the height about 3/8 in. I had a couple of floor guys look at it and they said the best thing to do would be to tear out out entire floor and also replace joints. A properly sealed concrete subfloor should not emit enough moisture to cause mold. You will want to find a matching reducer molding that is made for evening out height differences. Hi Marc, thanks for the question. The noise very well could be that your vinyl flooring is hitting the subfloor when it is being walked on, creating the click-clack sound. The barrier will protect your subfloor from any potential moisture. I was able to do a lot of damage control. Before you install laminate flooring of choice, you’ll first want to trim your existing door jamb to make room for your new floor. 1) If the product is vinyl – it is alrweady waterproof – no vapor barrier needed. Please let us know if you have any further questions. You can find our vapor barrier here: http://www.bestlaminate.com/visqueen-6mil-pe-vapor-barrier-block/, Do i need to put down a vapor barrier when installing vinyl flooring in a basement or do i just put it on the concrete. Can I just lay them? Hi Yolanda, yes, unfortunately you will need to start with a level subfloor. I’ve already tried warming the Bathroom and applying downward pressure with plywood and boards…Other type of prep? Thanks so much! We don’t know the ins and outs of floor preparation but, in our instance, we are imagining that 80-100% of our sub-floor will indeed be covered with some amount of self-leveling concrete. No, unfortunately you would need to uninstall the laminate and lay vinyl over the subfloor. No, you should be fine without using a moisture barrier! x 4 ft. x 8 ft.; Actual: 0.578 in. Because (as I understand it) the wooden sub-floor will now be covered with the self-leveling concrete, does this mean that we should treat it as a “concrete sub-floor”? 3. The longest run would be about 40 ft. Do we need to be concerned about moisture seeping through either the click or floating vinyl onto blue wood OSB or should be put a waterproof underlay?? Do you recommend an underlayment for this application? Any suggestions? Hi Pat, thanks for the question. I’ve also now found on another site that the manufacturer of a different 1mm LVT underlayment suggests that the vinyl planks must be at least 4mm thick. I hope this helps you out! If you wanted added cushion, you could opt for a 1mm vinyl underlayment on top of the linoleum. If you’re grouting the tiles, you will not use an underlayment. I believe under this 1 inch layer of thinset us either cement board or concrete. Seams should be OVERLAPPED 8” and taped using a waterproof adhesive tape (duct tape). There are many areas where it is noises when walked on I only weigh a hundred pounds and several areas where when I walk on it it is visably moving. You shouldn’t have any issues if you have had no moisture issues in the past. Is LVT a good option for a dance floor? I’ve had no moisture issues in the basement. Is it acceptable to sand these areas smooth and place the vinyl plank floor on top of the bare particle board or should I use a moisture barrier? Do you think I need to prep the Wonderboard like I did for tile, or can I just apply thinset over the screws and joints so they don’t show through the LVT? Born out of the DIY generation of home improvement, vinyl plank flooring is an affordable surrogate for traditional hardwood floors. This is a great site you have here! — B) What product(s) would you recommend? Hi. If it is installed over concrete without any underlayment though, there is a good chance that small amounts of moisture will be absorbed by the concrete, since it is a porous material. Please remember I am making suggestions based off of what I know about WPC flooring and not about what I have seen in your home so I can only make suggestions and assumptions. Flooring in long narrow rooms or hallways should be laid outward from the doorway so it doesn’t create a choppy appearance—and it’s also much easier for installation. We had a metal home built, on concrete slab…we paid extra to have the concrete floors have an additional coat of acrylic, as we ran out of money and could not afford flooring for the home. Thoughts on this? I purchased the Vesdura 8.5mm WPC click lock flooring. combined the soundproofing of the flooring once installed with the underlayment is above IIC 73 and STC 72. I think this flooring will last you! Currently, there is a concrete slab and the previous owner covered the floor with 1/2″ foam interlocking tiles- like the kind you would use for a kids play area or gym. Or is a 6 mil vapor barrier sufficient? Since we do not sell sheet vinyl, I am not an expert in this area! We are planning on installing 5mm vinyl plank flooring click and lock over a basement below grade concrete floor. Underlayment does make a significant difference, and we believe it would help address the concerns you mentioned. We are worried about possible mold. I had a flooring store (the owner) tell me that I cannot install vinyl plank flooring using a glue down method without installing a 3/8 underlayment first. And are you still recommending that we glue it down, or is floating okay? It is hard to say what this could be without seeing it. Can I lay the vinyl flooring over the substrate without removing the glue? It is important to have a clean, level subfloor before installing your flooring. The rigid core will help the flooring stay stable and not take the shape of the glue. HI Ken, did you solve your problem. No cork is not the only soundbarrier. Corporate Grade Vinyl Tile & Plank. No u do not need to demo, dry, and reinstall your VPF everytime it gets wet. The installer laid concrete board ( Duroc ) in the bedrooms where there was carpet . Luxury vinyl flooring is not a underlayment and should not be used as an underlayment under other flooring. Shaw In the Grain Vinyl Plank is Made in the USA, offers durability for the home or commercial space, and is available in several popular colors / wood looks. Once you have an even subfloor, you do not have to put anything between a concrete subfloor and vinyl flooring. Will just buying one like the Pro-Line Premium LVT Underlayment provide that needed vapor barrier between the vinyl and the concrete subfloor or will only installing the Visqueen Vapor Block provide that barrier and also some warmth/cushionioning? I know it’s a floating floor but have never felt a floating floor behave like this as I have had them before. The installer did not check for level ness of existing floors prior to installing the LVP . Installing the Tilt up Laminate Under Door Jambs. Some vinyls will have a pre-attached underlayment – most COREtecs have this feature and some of our SPC vinyls do as well. It can go right over top of it! Then I saw a 3mm cork vapor barrier that is a “3 in 1”. What does “reduce sound” in regard to underlayment refer to, 1) the sound of walking on the floor (avoid clicking of floating floor on subfloor), or 2) reduce sound transmission through the floor? When it comes to click lock vinyl, underlayment isn’t required, and can often void your warranty. I’m assuming because any compression of an underlayment could affect locking system, but they say it’s ok. Is this because the cork isn’t that compressible? Hope this helps! Unfortunately, your best option is to remove the glue marks. (My fault for not researching the value of underlayment before going ahead with the project) The install type is rigid core locking and it has an acoustic cork backing attached to the tile (8mm thickness). Hi Kelly, thanks for your question! You should be able to go to your local hardware store and rent a floor sander to remove the excess glue and grout that was left behind from the tile and carpet removal. Also, the ceramic tile has 1/4″ grout lines which are not too deep. If you stop by a local big box store, they should be able to direct you to the right product for the type of subfloor you have. The type of vinyl will impact your decision whether you need to purchase underlayment to install vinyl flooring or not. We assume the bathrooms are going to remain with the ceramic tile and that the other ceramic existing tile will have to be removed. The surface is pretty flat, but it slopes nearly 2.5″ over the 19′ span. It will be a raised surface, but it shouldn’t cause tripping. Thank you for reaching out and please reach out if you have any other questions. There is a vapor barrier underneath. Your moldings should cover the gaps. I plan to use the click-lock vinyl planks in a bathroom. Using a manufacturer’s underlayment and a generic probably won’t have much of a difference, depending on what qualities it has, i.e. It was installed over concrete. We are installing an 8mm LVF “Rigid Core” with a cork backing on our walkout concrete basement. What we would recommend is either a Visqueen Film: https://www.bestlaminate.com/visqueen-vapor-block-pe-film-flooring-underlayment/or Vapor Barrier LVT underlay like this: https://www.bestlaminate.com/bestlaminate-pro-line-premium-lvt-underlayment-15mm-100sf/. I want to put down floating CoreTec Plus Enhanced Dorado LVT over an advantech subfloor, next to 3/4″ hardwood flooring. Gauge: 8.5mm With Pad (7mm w/o attached pad, I think) To reduce IIC and STC noise, I am considering putting Green Glue compound down over the existing subfloor, then 3/8″ OSB over the top of that–followed by the 1/2″ Coretec. The floating floor will require a gap around the edges for expansion, which is why not 100% square walls are not a big deal. Hi Sky, thanks for reaching out. The is an upstairs room. We have 5 fans currently running, a dehumidifier, and an in-house AC unit. When the LVT was removed to look the parquet has tented up underneath. We have not had any issues with water (other then an exterior tap breaking and leaking a bit down our basement wall and onto the concrete). Hi David – They look to both be vinyl + WPC floors with cork padding attached. This way, I dont worry about the LVP sticking to the plywood and the underlayment acts as a barrier. Do I need to lay luan first or an underlayment or both? It will have less sound with a rigid core as well as be waterproof for your kitchen. We are planning to install Luxury Vinyl planks in our first floor. It is leaving the glue residue behind. Let us know if you have any other questions! Let us know if we can help you find a floor! I would think the polyethylene underlayment would do the same thing as the vonyl rug did. I cannot even get my bookcases to stand still…they wobble everywhere. 101 Questions Series, 101 Underlayment I would recommend going with an engineered vinyl that will give you a solid core for all of the jumping and dancing. However, hard flooring gives me terrible feet pain. Hi Jessica – We would definitely recommend smoothing out the subfloor before you install any vinyl flooring. Thoughts? Cali Bamboo is providing the materials for this Pro-Follow for free; however, the opinions we express here are our own. It’s a poured concrete basement, with Delta FL membrane over the concrete and a layer of 7/8″ blue wood OSB over that. Hi Don, thanks for your question. Vinyl floors under 4mm should be installed right over the subfloor. We live in Florida where it is humid and house sits on concrete slab. And one more thing – I need some sound proofing. We recommend to have your sub-floor completely leveled before installing a new floor. Vinyl Plank Installation Instructions 1 of 4 6 September, 2020 Important Notice Regarding Warranty Any faults that occur as a result of failure to comply with these installation instructions will not be covered by the product warranty. Our contractor will be using an extensive amount of self-leveling concrete to prepare our sub-floor (as well as replacing any plywood that needs it). Can we glue the lvp over that or does it need to be removed ? When installed, linoleum must be sealed against water penetration. Most manufacturers require you to have an even subfloor before beginning any installation of their flooring. Trim with a 1/8-inch gap after the flooring has been laid. Hi, I’m considering going with LVP and see that some products have attached foam backing on their planks. 1) It simply depends on what type of material you are looking to install. Would an underlay prevent moisture and mold from the flooring, or do we need to seal the flooring with anti-mold sealer/primer first? 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